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Mr.What
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Post Bacon
on: December 26, 2011, 09:14
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I might be doing a bacon-curing run the week after new year's.
If you are interested in curing some bacon, we need to get going NOW!
I saw some recipes that have a 1-week brine, followed by an immediate smoke cure (no nitrates). AFAIK, most nitrate techniques prefer two weeks (1 week brine, 1 week larder). It certainly won't hurt to use nitrate (pink) salt in your brine, then directly to cure... but it won't be absolutely necessary. A little safer, but not required. I plan to go to Keller's for some pork belly today or tomorrow. I can pick some up for you if you wish. Let me know. 750-8435 (aaron)

The best/cheapest wood souce I know if is the big (12#, 20#?) bags of Hickory chunks from Home Depot. If you know of a better source of hardwoods for smoking, let me know. (Apple? Pecan?...)

I have one oak pallet, which I hear is pretty good for some "filler" (not flavor) wood. I'll take all the untreated hardwoods I can find.

Keller's and Ta Lin sell frozen pork bellies. $2/lb at Ta Lin.
Kellers expects a fresh shipment might be around February. They claim that you can arrange to be notified and get some fresh pork bellies the day they come in. They freeze or cure them immediately.

If you go with a pink curing salt (nitrate), one recipe calls for 2 tsp for 5 pounds.

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Post Re: Bacon
on: December 26, 2011, 10:03
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This one is not a full cure. Salt and sugar seem low. I know I had about 3 procedures bookmarked someplace... lost them.
http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Home-Cured-Bacon

Searching again, Here's a full nitrate-free procedure:
http://www.imafoodblog.com/index.php/2009/02/25/how-to-cure-and-smoke-bacon 3-5 day cure. Important note: Smoke at around 200 until meat hits 150. I generally kipper at around 160F or so. Could do some kippers the same day.

My smoker is a similar design to this one, just a bigger, more "commercial-like" version.

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Post Re: Bacon
on: December 26, 2011, 11:01
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This one worked like I do. Derived their procedure by finding commonality among several other published procedures:
http://keepingthefarm.blogspot.com/2011/03/curing-bacon.html

Pretty standard recipe, with curing salt:
http://www.publicradio.org/columns/splendid-table/recipes/meat_bacon.html

Fancier recipe, also using curing salt:
http://ruhlman.com/2010/10/home-cured-bacon-2/

Another fancy recipe. Shows a common 7 day brine (regular salt and sugar), then heat (smoke) cure.
http://robbwolf.com/2011/05/20/the-path-to-culinary-bliss-home-cured-bacon/

Shockingly similar to above, but has a video:
http://www.legourmet.tv/cooking/homemadebacon.html

Another regular salt recipe:
http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Home-Cured-Bacon

This one from a Missou Aggie, notes that this is traditional bacon season (if you have a cool larder shed) THIS IS MY FAVORITE OF THESE LINKS!!!:
http://www.thepigsite.com/recipes/94/home-curing-bacon-for-a-mild-flavor
Summary: 1/2 oz mixed cure/lb

This is not the only recipe I see with juniper berries.
Anybody got some?
http://ruhlman.com/2010/10/home-cured-bacon-2/

General collected cure ratio guess: about 1-3 Tbsp salt + 1-3-Tbsp sugar / lb. I'm inclined to lean toward the aggie guideline of 1/2 oz cure/lb. I'm not sure how many Tbsp cure are 1/2 oz. I think it will be closer to 4-6 Tbsp total. We may want slightly more cure than the Missou site recommends if we are not using nitrates.

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Post Re: Bacon
on: December 27, 2011, 22:17
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HOLY CRAP THIS IS THE BEST IDEA EVER!

Did you go to Keller's yet? If not, count me in for some pork belly!

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Post Re: Bacon
on: December 28, 2011, 08:36
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Having a tough time getting to Ta Lin, and getting bacon in brine. may have to delay. I do plan to do this soon.

My smoker is fairly large, and costs $15-$20 in wood every time I fire it up... so the more bacon I can do at once the merrier.

P.S.... anybody know of a good source for scrap, untreated hardwoods?
Mesquite, Hickory, oak, apple, pecan, cherry... Know of any orchards with trimmings?

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Post Re: Bacon
on: January 4, 2012, 14:29
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Right now we are in a holding pattern. We may do a batch of bacon next time Keller's gets a shipment of fresh pork bellies. Stay tuned and move fast if you want to get in on this.

You will have to be responsible for your own brining. I cannot do this for you. I intend to avoid the pink salt (nitrates) at my own risk. I recommend that you include the pink salt in your brining.

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Post Re: Bacon
on: January 4, 2012, 16:41
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I wish i could remember where Gabe Was getting his pork bellies, i recall they were both a good deal and nice and local/fresh/healthy. Perhaps Walter knows.

-Quelab, Come make something!

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Post Re: Bacon
on: January 9, 2012, 11:52
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Kellers got pork bellies this AM. Call fast to get some. Brine now, I'll smoke Sunday or early next week.

aaron 750-TiEL

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Post Re: Bacon
on: January 9, 2012, 13:22
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I really dont have the time this month to play with this. but would love to sample/buy some of your finished product.

-Quelab, Come make something!

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Post Gaskets
on: November 21, 2012, 16:04
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Have been having trouble with thermal runaway in the smoker. If full the fire chamber with wood, it will get VERY hot, even if you shut all the air intakes totally OFF. There must be air leaks someplace to feed the fire. Perhaps it is even setting up a flow where it can suck air in from the smoke chamber... I dunno.

I got some fiberglass gasket and gasket cement from the local wood stove shop. I have some hints on how to apply it, for next time (lessons learned).

The gasket comes as a fiberglass kernmantle style rope sheath. (The kern part). I would lay down a bead for one side of the gasket, then put the dampened full rope in place. Close the door to seat the gasket, and get the glue to flow into the fiberglass. Then go back and cut the rope open if it is too thick, and re-seat the door again. Once one side is glued and seated, move on to the next segment of gasket. Try to do only a few inches at a time since the glue gets tacky rapidly. Attach and trim the gasket all the way around the seal, closing the door occasionally to press the seal.

Then trim the excess, and close the door to allow it to dry.

If the cement saturates the fiberglass... you used too much. But go put some tape (kapton?)_to keep the glue off the opposite side of the seal when closing. That way if the glue adheres to the tape, no big deal. The tape will peel away. If you use kapton, you don't even need to remove the tape, it will be fine.

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Got 2 small turkeys, a duck, and some pork belly for thanksgiving. I'm brining the poultry, and curing the pork belly. I do not really have enough time for a proper pork belly cure, but I'll run it anyway. I'm sure it will be useful... even if not exactly bacon. I'll be running the smoker around 220 for the poultry, which is a bit high for bacon anyway. But I'm sure smoked pork belly will work just fine to flavor beans.

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Post Brining tips
on: November 23, 2012, 08:13
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Turkey and duck were a bit salty. For poultry brining, I would recommend 24-48 hours in brine, then 2-10 hours in simple ice water. This should allow the brine to equalize and reduce... then smoke.

I may try this with kippers next time, too. Perhaps brine 3 hours, instead of two, then 30 min - 1 hour in ice water, then 12-14 hours cure before smoking.

To extrapolate to bacon, 5-7 days in brine. all day, or overnightish in ice water, then cure for 1-3 days ( longer is possible if using nitrates ) in fridge, then smoke 3-6 hours at 200.

I have noted that my top rack is quite a bit warmer than the bottom rack of the smoker. Next time I kipper (at 150ish degrees), I'll see if I can do some bacon on the top rack, which might be closer to 200F.

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